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19980419 复活节普迦(Easter Puja)- 土耳其 伊斯坦布尔(中英文对照)

19980419 Easter Puja, You Can Spread Sahaja Yoga Only Through Love and Compassion [复活节崇拜,你只能通过爱和慈悲传播霎哈嘉瑜伽]

 

 

Easter Puja. Istanbul (Turkey), 19 april 1998.

复活节Puja。伊斯坦布尔(土耳其),1998419日。

 

 

Today, we are celebrating the Resurrection of Christ. That is the greatest message of Christ life, not the crucifixion. Anybody can be crucified and killed, but this dead body of Christ was resurrected from death. Death itself died and He overcome.

今天我们庆祝基督的复活。基督的一生带来最伟大的信息,并不是被钉上十字架,而是复活。任何人也可以被钉上十字架或遭人杀害,但基督已死的躯体却能从死亡中复活过来。死亡本身已经死掉,祂克服了死亡。

 

It’s a miracle for ordinary human beings, definitely but not for Christ because He was a divine person. He was Shri Ganesha, He was Omkara Itself. So, He could walk on the water, gravity would not affect Him and also He got resurrected because death could not affect Him. Such a great divine personality, specially created for human beings that people should recognise Him.

对普通人来说,这肯定是奇迹,但对基督而言却不是,因为祂是神圣的,祂是锡吕格涅沙,是欧米加(Omega),所以祂能在水上行走,地心吸力不能影响祂,还有,祂能复活是因为死亡不能影响祂。这样伟大的神圣品格,特别为人类而创造,所以人们必须确认祂。

 

But they did not recognise Him, they killed Him in a very rude manner and even now, they think cross is a great thing because Christ died on a cross. It’s a very cruel idea of human beings to respect the cross. What does it show? It shows that people liked all the cruelties done to Him, symbolising cross as the one that represented His death and these atrocities, the way He was tortured.

但他们不但没有确认祂,还以非常残酷的手段杀害祂。即使是现在,他们还视十字架为伟大的东西,因为基督死在十字架上。人类尊重十字架是一种非常残酷的念头,它显示了什么?它显示人喜欢所有在基督身上作出的残酷行为,十字架代表基督的死亡,以及人们如何凶残地折磨祂。

 

So, it was a very sad time when He was crucified. But when He got resurrected it was the most joyous, most auspicious and most beautiful time. The resurrection of Christ is very symbolic for Sahaja Yoga. If Christ could be resurrected, then if human beings also can be resurrected, because He came as a human being with all powers and He created the path of resurrection for us. This path of resurrection is the one that we have followed in Sahaja Yoga, but the greatest thing is the piercing of the Agnya Chakra, which is described in all spiritual treaties or may be called as the scriptures that, that is the door which is golden, which is like a cover and no one can pass through that, so constricted is this door of Agnya chakra.

当基督被钉上十字架,那是最伤感的时刻。但当祂复活,却是最喜乐,最吉祥,最美好的时刻。基督的复活对霎哈嘉瑜伽具有很大的象征性意义。若基督能复活,人类也能。因为基督以人的形相带着祂所有力量降临,祂为我们建造了通往复活的通道。这复活的通道也是我们在霎哈嘉瑜伽通过的通道,

最伟大的还是祂开启了额轮。额轮的开启在所有灵性的条约,或我们称的经文都有描述。那是一度金碧辉煌的门,就像一个盖子,没有人能通过它,额轮这度门是非常狭窄紧迫。

 

But Christ did cross that. His crossing has helped us today to open your Agnya. Without opening the Agnya you cannot go to the Sahastrara and this was done so easily in your case only because Christ could go through all that torture and all that brutality and crossed over. How much we should be indebted to Him, I don’t know a word that can express, because He is the One who took lead in telling people that: “You seek, you seek and you’ll find” and then He says that: “You have to come and bang at the door.” This is exactly what has happened in your case; that you have risen up to Agnya and then you have crossed beyond Agnya.

但基督却穿过了这度门。祂通过这度门帮助我们今天打开我们的额轮。若额轮没有打开,我们就不能进入顶轮。我们现在这样容易就穿过这度窄门是因为基督经历了所有折磨,所有的残暴,通过了额轮。我们对祂该有多感激。我不知道用什么文字来表达,因为是祂最先告诉人︰「你追寻,只要追寻,就会寻到。」祂还说︰「你必须来,重重的敲门。」这正是发生在你们身上,你们已经提升至额轮,亦已经超越了额轮。

 

This crossing of Agnya was not at all difficult for you, though by your own ideas of thinking and of the conditioning of the futuristic planning and all that, it was a big, big crowd, I should say of very black clouds were hovering on the Agnya. Thoughts were overpowering you and you could not have penetrated through this Agnya which was all covered. But you did and you never even felt that you have crossed the Agnya Chakra so easily.

通过额轮对你们并不困难。虽然你们仍有自己的想法,自己的制约,还是那么未来取向及所有其他。我要说,就像有一片很大很大的云,一片很黑的云在额轮处徘徊。你的思维控制着你,额轮完全被遮蔽,令你不能穿越,但你却可以穿越,你从来未曾感到你是那么容易的穿越额轮。

 

First of all, we all should be very thankful to Christ for opening the Agnya for you. For Him, all the tortures and all the brutality were nothing because His purpose of His life, the purpose of His advent, His incarnation was to break the Agnya chakra. Today, you will find that even though your Agnya is opened out and still you’ll be amazed that people get involved in the Agnya Chakra. In Sahaja Yoga, people do get involved in Agnya Chakra.

首先,你们必须非常感谢基督为你们打开了额轮。对祂而言,所有折磨,所有的残暴都不算什么。因为祂生命的目的,祂的冒险旅程的目的,祂的降世,就是为了打开额轮。今天,你会发觉虽然你的额轮已经打开了,你亦已经穿越了它,但你对某些人仍牵涉入额轮而感到惊讶。在霎哈嘉瑜伽,人们的确仍牵涉入额轮。

 

Now, how do we see through introspection what happens to us? For example, once people come to Sahaja Yoga they think they are in charge; in charge of this, in charge of that, in charge of all the Sahaja Yogis. And they start behaving in a manner which doesn’t behove a Sahaja Yogi. It doesn’t. I have seen them and I am amused the way they start trusting themselves and showing off that they are very much in charge. This is nothing modern. This used to be there with human beings, but if it was so, it was before Sahaja Yoga. Even now, people get into the mood of dominating others by saying that we are in charge.

现在,我们可以怎样透过内省看清什么发生在我们身上?例如,一旦来到霎哈嘉瑜伽,他们认为自己是管事者,掌管这些,掌管那些,掌管所有霎哈嘉瑜伽士,他们的言行开始不像霎哈嘉瑜伽士。我真的感到很惊讶的看到他们怎样突出自己,炫耀自己是管事者。这并非新事物,这样的事情在人类由来已久。但若这种事情真的要发生,那是在霎哈嘉瑜伽前。即使是现在,人们也以宰制人的态度说︰「我们是管事者。」

 

Sahaja Yoga is not simple as you think because there is a lot of temptations. Supposing you make somebody a leader. Now, leader becomes some sort of in charge, you see and he gets the drunkenness of power. When he is like that, he starts dominating all the rest of the people and also starts showing off that he is something very great and he has to dominate all the rest of the people. Then he creates an atmosphere of fear. Firstly I have seen what happens with them is that they start saying falsely that: “Mother has told this, Mother has said so. This is Mother’s idea.” I have nothing to do with that gentleman but he goes on talking like that and people get very frightened. Then also he can also frighten you by saying: “I will tell Mother. Mother will listen to me and She’ll punish you.” I’m sometimes very surprised at such people because I have never said that I will punish somebody or I will take him out of Sahaja Yoga. Nothing of the kind. So, this man who thinks no end of himself, he may be a leader, may not be a leader, may be nothing in Sahaja Yoga and then he starts talking like this, in such a funny manner that it doesn’t look that the person is a Sahaja Yogi. Then he goes even further. He goes himself describing as something very great as if he is the one who is chosen specially for the rising higher and higher.

霎哈嘉瑜伽不如你想象的那样简单,因为当中有太多的诱惑。例如,你推举某人成为领袖,领袖变成某种「管事者」。他沉醉在权力中。当他像这样,就开始控制所有人,也开始向人炫耀他是十分了不起,他必须主宰所有人。他制造了恐惧的气氛。我首先看到发生在他们身上的是,他们开始虚假的说︰「这是母亲告诉我们的;母亲是样说的;这是母亲的主意。」我与这个人完全没有任何关系,但他却不停的说这种话,令人感到非常惧怕。他也这样说︰「我会告诉母亲,母亲会听我的,她会惩罚你。」令你很害怕。有时,我对这些人也很惊讶,因为我从来也没有说我会惩罚任何人,或把他赶离霎哈嘉瑜伽,从来没有说这种话。这个人不停的只想着自己,他或许是领袖,或许不是,或许在霎哈嘉瑜伽什么也不是。若他以这种滑稽可笑的态度说话,他应不是霎哈嘉瑜伽士。他甚至更过分,把自己描述得很了不起,就像他是特别被拣选来升进得高而又高的人。

 

When I hear about these things, I’m really amazed how can people befool themselves all the time and behave in such a manner. First thing in Sahaja Yoga is humility. If you are not a humble person, you cannot be a Sahaja Yogi. The person who orders about, the person who talks in a manner as if he is Hitler, any person who tries to control and being in charge of the thing, all these capacities only show that that person has achieved nothing in Sahaja Yoga. First thing is to enjoy the humility. I have seen people like this. They’ll always sit in the first row. They will be always sitting in a place where they just see Me, all the time there and just smile. I know they are just show-offs. They think no end of themselves, and that’s why they are there, but they themselves are loosing, they themselves are not very happy. That’s why they try to do all these tricks and do all this kind of domination.

当我听到这样的事情,我真的感到非常惊叹。人们怎能每时每刻都在愚弄自己,作出这样的言行?霎哈嘉瑜伽首先是谦卑。若你不谦虚,不可能是霎哈嘉瑜伽士。那些命令人的人,说话像希特勒的人,想宰制和想管事的人,所有这些表现只显示这个人在霎哈嘉瑜伽完全没有任何成就。我们首先是要享受谦虚。我看过有人是这样的,他们常常坐在第一行,常常坐在我能看到他们的位置,我只是微笑,我知道他们在炫耀。他们不停的只想着自己,那就是为甚么他们在这里。他们正在迷失,并不快乐,所以他们才玩弄这些把戏,有这种宰制行为。

 

The other side of it is people who are humble, who are simple, who are honest and who are really seeking the Truth are being oppressed by this gentleman. He oppresses them, tries to show off, tries to make slaves out of others. I have seen people have gone so far, that there was a group of people who just would not move even an inch without the permission of their leader and they would go all out to be subservient to such an irrational personality.

与这些人相反的是谦卑、单纯,诚实以及真心追寻真理的人,但却受到这个男士的压迫。他透过压迫他们来炫耀自己,令别人成为他的奴隶。我曾经看过这样过分的人。而另外一些人,若他们的领袖不允许,动也不敢动。他们尽全力卑躬屈膝于这种毫无理性的品格。

 

First of all you know this is the love of Mother. Mother never dominates, She cannot dominate because She is nothing but love. As soon as She sees the problem, immediately She absorbs. She has to make deliberations, just a drama sometimes to show that She is angry. But She cannot basically be angry with anyone. It’s the love which all the time, all the time is flowing and that love envelops the Mother as well as you. That is how you people understand Sahaja Yoga. What does a human being need is nothing but love and compassion. Love and compassion of a very, very pure type.

首先,你知道母亲是爱,母亲从不宰制人,她不会宰制人是因为她只是爱。当她看到问题,她立即把问题吸走。她有时候也会故意,上演一出戏剧,以显示她很愤怒。本质上,她不会生任何人气,常常都有爱,爱常常都在流通。这爱把母亲包裹着,也包裹着我们。这就是人们应怎样理解霎哈嘉瑜伽。人类需要的只是爱和慈悲,非常非常纯洁的爱和慈悲。

 

Look at Christ. He pitied the people who crucified Him. He told His father, God almighty, that: “Please forgive them, because they don’t know what they are doing.” He could see that the blindness of these people are doing wrong things and God the Father would be very annoyed who is wrathful and may destroy them. So, this is what He has done with a very compassionate feeling without thinking about it, just automatically He felt that: “These people are doing all this to Me and I don’t know what will happen to them.” So, He prayed to God, to Father: “Please forgive, please forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing, they are blind, so please do not punish them.” What compassion, what love! I mean, think of it; do we do that in our life if somebody harms us, troubles us? Do we ask Father to forgive those who do not know what they are doing? That should be the level of Sahaja Yoga. And it will work out very well if you ask for forgiveness, God will look after them, He’ll transform them, He’ll bring them to their senses.

看看基督,祂怜悯把祂钉上十字架的人。祂告诉祂父亲,全能的神︰「请原谅他们,因为他们不知道自己在做什么。」祂看到这些人盲目地在做错事,令父亲很困扰,感到很愤怒,或许会毁灭他们。出于慈悲,没有想什么,基督只是很自然的感到这些人对我做了这样的事情,祂也不知道有什么会发生在他们身上。所以祂向神、向父亲祷告︰「请原谅他们,请原谅他们,因为他们也不知道自己在做什么,他们是盲目的,请不要惩罚他们。」那是何等慈爱!何等有爱心!我的意思是想想看,在你的一生中,有否做过这样的事情?若某人伤害你们,找你们麻烦,你有没有请求父神,原谅那些不知道自己做了些什么的人呢?这就是霎哈嘉瑜伽士的层次,若你请求原谅,事情会成就得很好。神会照顾他们,转化他们,把他们的意识带回来。

 

The messages of Christ are full of love, compassion, pure compassion. How He tried to protect Mary-Magdalena is an example of that who was leading a sinful life and for a saint He had nothing to do, He had nothing to do with her. But when He saw she being stoned by people, He stood against her, He took a stone in His own hand and He says: “Alright those who have not committed any wrong deed or have not committed any sin, can take this stone and hit Me”. And nobody came forward, because they had to face themselves.

基督带给我们的信息是充满爱心、慈悲、纯洁的慈悲。祂怎样保护妓女玛利亚就是一个例子。她过着罪人般的生活。作为圣人,祂与她毫不相干。但当祂看到有人以石头掷向她,祂站在她那边,拿起一块石头,说︰「好吧,没有犯过任何错事的或没有犯过任何罪孽的人,可以拿起石头掷我。」没有人走上前,因为他们必须先面对自己。

 

When we are dominating others, then a kind of a cruel joy is there, some sort of a joy that I don’t understand Myself. But people have, they show off, that: “We have achieved this joy, we have achieved this great power.” It has happened for centuries with all the great emperors and also despotic rulers. But with Sahaja Yogis it should be the other way round. They have to rule the world with peace and love. They don’t have to show off by any chance. This is how Sahaja Yoga will spread much, much faster.

当我们宰制别人,便生出一种残酷的喜乐,这种喜乐连我也不能明白,他们却有这种喜乐。他们炫耀自己拥有喜乐,拥有了不起的力量。这种事情由来已久,所有伟大的国王以及残暴的统治者身上都能看到这种喜乐。霎哈嘉瑜伽士却完全相反,他们要以和平和爱统治世界,他们不用向人炫耀,一点也不会,这就是霎哈嘉瑜伽怎会传播得那么快的原因。

 

What does the world need? Just think of it. It needs only love and affection. Those people who are yet lost in the ignorance about life and are still busy troubling others, torturing others, going against the collectivity will have to return to normalcy. It’s very abnormal behaviour sometimes and you just don’t understand why they behave like mad people. It is very difficult also to tell such people that you are mad. And also it is difficult to be with such a person who is so mad with some sort of a power. It goes on like that with so many Sahaja Yogis, I have seen who start thinking they have lots of powers, they think they can do whatever they like, they can talk to anyone and they can confuse anyone. But in Sahaja Yoga, you don’t have to confuse. You have to clearly express your love. But that doesn’t mean any kind of particular gesture for a particular happening, but it is just an inner oneness with each other.

试想想这个世界需要什么你只要想想,世界需要的只是爱和慈悲。仍迷失在无明中的人,忙于麻烦人的人,折磨人的人,违反集体的人都会回复正常。有时这些都是很不正常的行为,你就是不明白他们怎会有疯人的行为,告诉这些人︰「你是疯子」是很困难的,也很困难与拥有某种权力的疯人相处。很多霎哈嘉瑜伽士也是这样,我曾经见过,他们开始以为自己很有权力,可以做任何他们喜欢的事情,他们可以与任何人交谈,可以混淆任何人。在霎哈嘉瑜伽,你不用有任何混淆,只要清楚的表达你的爱。这并不代表某种特别的姿态或某些特别的事件,只是内在的人与人之间的合一。

 

Sometimes I find Sahaja Yogis so much understanding each other, so much loving each other, so beautifully enjoying the love of other people. When I see that, I feel very, very happy, absolutely overjoyed that what I wanted, these people should enjoy is that. And you’ll be amazed the most enjoyable thing is the love that you give to others. You may not receive, but when you give love to others, then it is the most enjoyable thing. But the way you express yourself is also an art I think, to understand how to please others, how to make them happy.

有时我发现霎哈嘉瑜伽士都能互相了解,相亲相爱,享受互相的爱。当我看到这样,我感到十分、十分快乐,绝对的狂喜。这就是我想要的︰这些人应该享受,就是这样。你会感到惊讶,最快乐的是你付出爱。你或许没有接受到爱,但当你给别人爱,这是最让人喜乐的事情。我认为你表达自己的方式也是一种艺术,明白怎样互相取悦,互相令对方快乐。

 

I told you also this story before, about a saint who lived in Gagangad, it’s a… what you can say… hill or a mountain. He used to live there and he couldn’t walk, you see, because of vibrations, he lost his legs or some… the power in and then he would go all over the place on a tiger because tiger loved him and he loved the tiger. So, this gentleman was all the time telling people from Bombay: “What are you doing here? Mother has come, go and touch Her feet.” I didn’t know why he was so much concerned. So, I told Sahaja Yogis: “I must go and meet him.” So, all these gurus, you see, they say that: “We don’t leave our pillows. We have to be in our own pillows.” Means wherever they live, exit, they won’t go out. I’m the other way round. I will never station in one place, you see. So, they asked if I could go, so I said: “Why not?” So, I went there and the Sahaja Yogi said: “Mother, You never go anywhere, so why do You want to go here?” I said: “Alright, see the vibration” And it’s tremendous vibration. So, when I went up.

我也曾说过这个故事,关于一位住在Gaganbhoura的圣人,那是一座小山或山脉,他通常都住在那里,他不能走路,因为生命能量或是失去双腿或是双腿无力之类,所以他去哪都是骑着老虎去,因为老虎爱他,他也爱老虎。这位男士常常告诉来自孟买的人︰「你在这里做什么?母亲已经来了!去触摸她的双脚吧。」我不知道他为什么那么关心我。我告诉霎哈嘉瑜伽士︰「我要与他会面。」所有这些导师,你要明白,他们说︰「我们想保持现状,我们要保持现况」。即是无论他们住在哪里,在哪里生活,都不会出门。我则相反,我从不停留在同一个地方。他们问我会不会去,我说︰「为什么不去?」我到哪里,霎哈嘉瑜伽士则说︰「母亲,你从来都不随便到任何地方,为什么你想到哪里?」我说︰「好吧,来看看生命能量。」生命能量是那么巨大。所以我去了。

 

This fellow was very angry with the rain because he was supposed to control the rain. He was supposed to be controlling the rain. It’s very surprising that when I went up, he couldn’t not control and I got completely drenched. So, he was very angry. He was sitting on a stone and doing like this with anger. I didn’t say anything to him. I went inside and sat in the cave where he had made some arrangement for Me to be sitting. Then he came and he touched My feet and he sat down. And I was amazed that he was still angry and he couldn’t understand why the rain could not stopped. So, he asked Me: “Why did You not allow me to stop the rain? Because, after all, You are coming to see me all the way and the rain should have behaved! And I also could not, some way or other, control the rain, so what was the thing, what was the lesson?” I just smiled. I said: “See, you are an ascetic, you are a sanyasi, and I am your Mother and I cannot take a sari from you, because, after all, you are a sanyasi and you are not supposed to take anything from a sanyasi. Even the Mother cannot take anything from him. But you have bought a nice sari for Me and I had to get drenched so that I could take a sari from you.” You see the sweetness of Mine telling him just made him melt and he started crying.

(路上下雨),这家伙于是很生气,因为按理他可以控制雨,他理应能控制雨。但当我走上山,很令人惊讶,他控制不了雨,我全身淋湿透。所以他很愤怒。他坐在石头上,你也知道,他就像这样很愤怒,我没有对他说什么,我走进去,坐在洞穴里,他在那里为我安排了坐位。接着他进来,触摸我的双脚,再坐下。我很诧异他仍然很愤怒,他不明白为何雨没有停。他问我︰「为何你不让我令雨停下来?不管如何,你是老远来看我,我应好好管束雨。我不知怎的就是不能控制雨,所以到底是何事,有何训示?」我只是微笑,我说︰「看,你是苦行者,出家人(sanyasi),而我是你的母亲,我不能拿出家人的纱丽。毕竟,出家人的任何东西都不应该拿,即使是母亲也不能」。「但你为我购买了一件很好的纱丽,我要不得不淋湿,才能接受你给我的纱丽。」你看,我这样甜美的告诉他,他整个人溶化了,开始哭。

 

He said: “We need a Mother for this world. There should be the Mother.” We cannot solve, because whatever it is, we get angry. Or we want to disappear. We don’t want to be with these horrible people who are so sinful to help them. This is the problem with the world today and that’s why you find very few spiritual people in the whole world. Because they are the ones who are very much tortured, troubled, insulted, all kinds of things happened. So they are struggling, struggling, so they want to die very fast.

他说︰「这个世界需要母亲,这里必须有母亲」。他接着说:[我们不能解决(这世界),不管那是什么问题,我们变得愤怒,或者只想消失。我们不想跟这些可怕的人在一起,不想帮助这些充满罪孽的人]。这就是今天这个世界的问题,这也是为何你发现很少灵性的人在这个世界。因为他们受很多折磨,很多麻烦,羞辱,他们身上发生各种事情。所以他们不停的挣扎,挣扎,所以他们想快点死去。

 

Gyaneshwara such a great personality, such a great writer, poet. I mean, He was everything, so beautifully He has written. But at the age of 23, He took His Samadhi, means, He went into a cave and closed the cave and died. Must have been tired and fed up with the surroundings of ignorant people. And that’s why He died. You can imagine a person like Gyaneshwara who was the incarnation of Kartikeya, had to recede into the world of the dead, because He could not bear any more the way they were torturing Him. They tortured Him so much, saying that He is the son of a sanyasi, I mean it’s like this, son of a sanyasi means, He’s no good, He’s absolutely like an illegitimate child, and He’s ill treated to such an extent, He didn’t even have shoes to wear, in that heat of India, He used to walk barefoot. And His sister, brother who were great scholars, who were great saints, great incarnations, all of them. As a result, He wanted just to disappear, and He made a beautiful way of doing it, that He told them that: “I have to go.” And He took leave from them, and went inside His cave, and got His Samadhi.

格涅殊哇(Gyaneshwara),这样伟大的人物,伟大的作家,诗人,我是说他是一切,他的作品是那么漂亮。他在二十三岁取得三摩地(Samadhi),意思是他走进洞穴,把洞穴封闭,死在那里。他必定是对周遭无知的人感到烦厌,这就是为何他死去。你能想想像格涅殊哇这样的人物,他以卡提凯亚(Kartikeya)的形相降世,却要以死离开这个世界,因为他不能再忍受别人折磨他。他们那样地折磨他,说他是出家人的儿子。「出家人的儿子」即意味着说他是坏的,是私生子。他被虐待到那种程度,以至于他连鞋子都没得穿,在这样酷热的印度也,他通常都是赤足行走。而他的姊妹,兄弟,他们都是伟大的学者,伟大的圣人,伟大的降世神祇,全都是。因此他只想消失,他以很漂亮潇洒的方式消失,他告诉他们︰「我要走了。」他离开他们,走进洞穴,到达三摩地(Samadhi)

 

Even Christ was very young when He was crucified. He was 33 years of age. It was all planned by the Divine that He was to be crucified to make way for our Sahaja Yoga, to open the Agnya, to sacrifice His life, and for Him to be hanged in such a horrendous cruel way, which normally you do not find people behaving in such a manner towards a person who is about to die.

基督也是很年青就被钉十字架,那时他三十三岁。祂被钉上十字架是上天计划,为霎哈嘉瑜伽铺平道路︰打开额轮,牺牲祂的生命。对他而言,把祂吊死的方式是如此可怕、残忍!通常你难以找到人会用这样的方式对待将死的人。

 

So what happened? Those people who were in charge of His crucifixion must have been some devils, the way they behaved. It is not possible to forgive them, even if He, Christ, says. It’s difficult to forgive such people who were watching the crucifixion of Christ. So, if that is the case that a person like Him thought that: “Let Me do My job: is to break Sahastrara.” And then He didn’t want to live, live with these stupid people to be tortured and He just disappeared into Kashmir, where He lived after His resurrection.

怎会这样?把祂钉上十字架的人必定是魔鬼,才会有这样的行为。很难寛恕这些人,即使基督也这样说。很难原谅这种看着基督被钉上十字架的人。这种境况下,像祂这样的人物会想︰「让我完成任务,打开顶轮。」接着祂不想活下去,不想与这样的蠢人一起活在世上还被他们折磨。祂消失了,去到克什米尔,祂复活后住在那里。

 

Lots of stories are there about His ascent and His resurrection. And, you see, all those stories, if you read, you’ll be amazed how miraculous. He got His second birth, we can say, or second life in Kashmir. He lived in Kashmir happily for some time, with His mother, and there He died. They say there is a grave of our Lord Jesus Christ and also His Mother was there. But who has taken advantage of His life, from His life? Who are the people really who wanted Him to die? You know very well! You know very well how Christ died, and the people came up suddenly, like Paul and Peter, who tried to make a big business out of it. It is very sad to see that these two persons brought such a shame.

有很多关于祂升进和复活的故事,若你阅读那些故事,你会很诧异,祂是怎样神奇地重生,你也可以说,在克什米尔重生。祂与祂的母亲快乐地在克什米尔生活了一段时间,然后去世。他们说耶稣基督的墓在克什米尔,祂母亲的墓也在哪里。你们都知道得很清楚,谁人在利用祂?谁人真的想祂死?你清楚的知道基督是怎样死去。然后一些人忽然出现,像保罗和彼德,他们想从基督的死得益。看到这二个人带来这种羞辱真的很悲伤。

 

This Paul was nothing but an organiser, I think, a person who was bureaucratic, I should say. But he was not only bureaucratic, he was also a man who wanted to have a big position. So he told a lie, that he went down to Damascus, and on his way, on his way he saw a big cross. According to Sahaja Yoga, all such signs are the sign of supraconscious. It’s not of the Spirit. And then he came back and he started his own research and sort of things like that, and he’s written a lot of things, but throughout, if you read, you’ll find that he was not a Sahaja Yogi, he was just an organiser, he was a bureaucratic personality who was writing how we should administer, how we should have people who are different types of people, how should we manage them. So he is management department, he was the management department for the Christians.

这个保罗,只是个组织统筹者,我得说,他是个官僚。他不仅仅很官僚,也想取得很大的权位。所以他说了一个大谎,说在前往Damascus的途中,他看到一个大十字架。根据霎哈嘉瑜伽,所有这些征兆都是超意识的信号,不是灵的征兆。他回来后展开调查,做类似的事情。他写了大量文章,若你阅读他全部文章,你会发现他不是霎哈嘉瑜伽士,只是个组织统筹者。他的官僚个性在写我们该怎样管理,怎样有不同种类的人来,怎样管控他们。所以他是管理部门,基督徒的管理部门。

 

So the Christians also became extremely very secretarial type like, you see, everything has a time, you must come like this, you must sit like this, just talk like this. And also the nations which are supposed to be Christians are observing all that in a very official manner. It is not understood why are they so much official. Just the opposite what Christ did, is to break the Agnya, they built up this. And the Christian nations became the most arrogant, most aggressive nations in the whole world. For them, it was their right to occupy any land they saw. It was in their right to establish their own laws, their own, I should say, assemblies. All this is done in India, I know, even today, if you go to places like Punjab. And all of them, you’ll find the people are just living like rustic people, working very hard, and they are all the time under attack, from people who are dominating, and those who wanted the full advantage to be taken out of these people. It was a ridiculous thing to behave like that as Christians.

所以基督徒也变得极之秘书型人格,你看,一切事情都有时间表,你必须这样来,必须这样坐,必须这样说话。所有基督教的国家都要遵守这种官方形式。就是不明白为什么他们对任何事情都有那么多官方形式?这是反基督的教诲,基督教导怎样打破额轮,他们却在建立额轮。基督教国家变成全世界最傲慢,最富侵略性的国家。对他们而言,占领任何他们看到的土地是他们的权利,这是他们的权利建立他们自己的法律,我要说,他们是立法机构。所有这些事情都在印度发生,我是知道的。即使是今天,若你到像Punjab的地方,你会发觉人们生活得像乡下人,很辛勤的工作,他们每时每刻都受控制他们的人攻击,这些人想从中取得最大利益。像基督徒这样行事是很讽刺的。

 

Then, also they started converting them. It’s another nonsense, converting them. In the South, what they did, is to…: we, Indians, never make breads. They don’t know how to use your oven in the South. So they made huge big cake – you can call it a cake, or you can call it a bread – and put it in the water, or in a well, and they would say that: “We have put the part of the calf, of a buffalo, or could be a cow,” and they just believed them. And so, they said: “Now, you are finished, because you are no more belonging to Hindu religion or to any other religion. So, now, you have become Christians.” And that’s how they made thousands and thousands people of Christians who were actually downtrodden people, I should say. I still call them “downtrodden”.

他们也开始转化人(指让人信教,信基督),这是另一种荒唐,转化人的信仰。在南方,他们做的是….印度人从不造面包,南方人不懂用烤炉,所以他们制造巨大的糕饼,你可以称它为糕饼或面包,把它放在水里或井里,他们会说我们把一部分的水牛或小牛或母牛放进去啦,人们就这样相信了。由此他们说︰「你现在完了,因为你不再属于印度教或任何宗教,你已经成为基督徒。」他们就是这样令成千上万的人变成基督徒,实际上,这些全是被践踏的人,我要说。我仍旧称他们为“被践踏者”。

 

Now, all these downtrodden people, they wanted to have converted to Christianity. Because, they thought they all wanted all such people who would just follow the missionaries, and who would not question. Because they were not educated people, they’re not people of any understanding or intelligence to understand what these people are. So, when they started this, directed against the downtrodden people, so many of them joined. Just they found their own race and they started their business.

对于所有这些被蹂躏的人,他们想要这些人改信基督教,因为他们想要这样的人,只跟随传教士,并不作出质疑。因为这些大众没有受过教育,没有洞悉力和才智去理解这些传教士是什么人。当他们开始把枪头对准这些被践踏者,有那么多人加入了他们。于是他们开始组织自己的族群,开展自己的宗教生意。

 

This is a thing one should understand. How the dominating nature of people accepted a particular religion because that religion is nothing but humility. And how then these people, supposed to be in charge of Christianity converted people into something absurd. You see, it is a human nature, it can enjoy any nonsense, any kind of cruelty, any kind of oppression. It can never give up that realm, that area where they have been dominating.

这是人们得明白的一件事。专横的人怎样接受特定的宗教,因为这个宗教只是谦虚,而掌管基督教的人,是怎样把人转化得那么荒唐?你看,这是人性,人性能享受任何荒唐,任何残忍,任何压迫。它永远不会放弃这片领土,这片他们已经控制的领域。

 

Now as it is, the Christian nations have gone even beyond that, because among the Christians, it is all the freedom given to them, they are liberated: “Do whatever you may like, it will become better, you are all right.” Indeed they are the ones who have been dominating, and those who are dominated are there everywhere. They would go to ordinary people whom you can call as Aboriginals and convert them. Their main method was to convert. What was the need to convert so many people? Because in democracy, it is important that the number you have should be large. So to gain the number, they used to convert. And it has ruin so many things.

就如现在,基督教国家甚至更甚,因为基督徒之间有自由,他们获得自由解放。若你成为基督徒,你可以做任何你喜欢的事情。他们是妥当的,对吗?是他们好支配控制人,专横的遍布每一处。他们会走到你称为土著的那里,转化他们,他们主要的方法是让人转信基督教。有何需要转化那么多人?因为民主最重要是大基数。因此要取得数量,他们常常去转化人信基督教。这已经摧毁了这么多事情。

 

See, the whole situation of Christ really makes Me feel very nervous. Today, you all are Sahaja Yogis, you are all so much higher than others, you have all the powers, and then supposing you want to behave like the Christians, I don’t know what you will do. So now you are on the verge where Sahaja Yoga is accepted in different countries. And there people respect people who are Sahaja Yogis, they have even positions. Then suddenly you might get this power business into your head, and you may try, you may try to become like a despot, because that is human nature. That’s not divine. But that’s a human nature. For example, when in the kingdom of, you can say, of the animals, they are aggressive on each other. It’s all right, it’s permitted, is that, but there is a system, there’s a way, there’s a method how they dominate. It’s not like they jump on everyone.

看,基督教的整个境况真的令我感到很紧张。今天你们全是霎哈嘉瑜伽士,你们比其他人高得多,全都拥有力量。若你的行为像基督徒,我不知道你会做什么。现在霎哈嘉瑜伽正处于被不同国家接受的边缘,人们尊重霎哈嘉瑜伽士,他们是有地位的。忽然,你脑袋里或许有这种权力出现,你或许想变得像暴君,因为这是人性。不是神性,而是人性。以动物王国为例,牠们互相侵略对方,这是没问题,容许的,牠们亦已经这样做了。牠们怎样支配控制对方是有上天的系统,有它们的方式。这跟基督教突然骑到每个人身上是不同的。

 

But I have seen in Sahaja Yoga, many people, you make them a leader, finished! Then, he sits on everybody’s head. If you don’t make them a leader, then they go on writing letters to Me, one after another, that: “Mother, we want to be leader, I want to be a leader.” Like this they go on insisting. For what do you want to be a leader? Just to dominate others. And this domination business is not meant for Sahaja Yogis.

我曾经看到很多在霎哈嘉瑜伽的人,他们成为领袖完蛋了。接着他坐在每个人的头上,若你不让他们成为领袖,他们就会不停的写信给我,一封接一封︰「母亲,我们想成为领袖,我想成为领袖。」很坚持的要做领袖。为何你想做领袖?只为能控制支配人。控制专横的事情,是不可以发生在霎哈嘉瑜伽身上。

 

I’m here today to tell you about a beautiful image of Christ who rose above that. In the same way let the death of all nonsensical ideas, all negative thoughts, everything has to be overcome. You have to be the Lord of yourself, and in that you should feel so comforted, so happy. In giving others, you’ll find it very much easier than taking something from others. It’s very, very surprising how Sahaja Yoga has taught you all these things. In Sahaja Yoga people have to say that they are very wonderful, they are very beautiful people, they are very loving, they are very kind. I want to hear that all the time about them about you all, that you all are individually or collectively, you are something outstandingly great. But this greatness is not by domination or by showing off, but it’s coming from within. People see you and know it is something, and that is how Sahaja Yoga is going to spread.

我今天在这里告诉你基督漂亮的形象,祂从死里复活。同样,让所有荒谬的念头,负面的想法死掉,要克服一切。你要成为自己的主,由此你感到那么舒畅,那么快乐。你发觉付出远比从别人处拿取容易。很惊讶,霎哈嘉瑜伽是怎样教懂你这些事。在霎哈嘉瑜伽,人们要说︰「他们很奇妙,很漂亮,很有爱心,很仁慈」。我想要一直听到这种有关他们、有关你的这种美言,无论还是个人或集体地说你们很棒、很杰出。但这种了不起,不是透过支配或炫耀而来,而是发自内心。人们看到你,知道你有点特别。霎哈嘉瑜伽就是这样传播开去。

 

It’s the Christ within you who has to arise, Christ within you who has to guide. It is Christ within you who will teach how to behave towards others and how to gain their confidence, and give them the love and peace that you have now flowing within you, to make them very very happy and joyous people. This is the message of resurrection, this is the message of breaking the Sahastrara.

是你内在的基督要升起来,是你内在的基督要指引你,教导你对人要有怎样的言行,怎样获得别人的信任,怎样给他们你现在内在流通的爱和平安,令他们十分,十分快乐和喜乐。这是复活的讯息,打开额轮的讯息。

 

So this egg which was described in a very surprising way, very clearly described in Devi Mahatmyam; how this egg was formed and was broken into two, and from one part of the egg came out Christ. Another part was Shri Ganesha. It’s all written down. But this Christ is described as Mahavishnu, not as Christ. So this Mahavishnu then grows, and He does all these, all wonderful things. It’s a real message, beautifully written by the life of Christ, that now, as we are thoughtlessly aware, now we have to express that light through our lives. And we have to show to the world that we are quite capable, and that only we are within ourselves absolutely complete. We don’t want anything from others. What we want now to give whatever we have achieved to others. This is what people are looking at you and at all the Sahaja Yogis.

所以这只蛋很令人惊讶,在”Devi Mahatmayam”(女神圣典)清楚的描述那只蛋,描述这只蛋是怎样形成,怎样一分为二,基督怎样从蛋的一部分走出来,蛋的另一部分则是锡吕格涅沙。这全都有记录下来。书中这位基督被描述为摩诃毗湿奴(mahavishnu),不是Christ。摩诃毗湿奴长大,完成所有事情,奇妙的事情。基督的一生漂亮地书写下这些真实的讯息,那就是 -- 现在我们处于无思虑的觉醒当中,我们要透过我们的人生彰显光,我们要向全世界展示我们是颇有能力,我们内在是绝对圆满的。现在,我们不想要别人什么,只想把我们已经成就达到的给予别人。这就是人们应如何看待你,看待所有霎哈嘉瑜伽士。

 

May God bless you all!

愿上帝保佑你们!

 

Thinking of Christ, I find it impossible to keep awaken, because to keep in these modern times is very difficult when you are thinking of Christ and talking about Him. It’s just something, shows that how people never understood such a great man, such a great personality. And He was divine! Absolutely divine. Despite that, He made a drama, we should say, to go through all the suffering. It’s very painful, even to remember all that, how He crucified Himself, and He how He died.

想到基督,我发觉不可能保持清醒,因为在这现代一旦你想及基督、谈及基督,就十分困难。有些事情显示人们从来都不了解这位伟人,伟大的品格。祂是神圣的,绝对是上天的。虽然祂制造了一出戏剧,我们得说,经历各种苦难。即使是想起这些苦难,也感到很痛苦︰祂怎样被钉上十字架,怎样死去。

 

But the main point is this, He’s done for you, for all of you. And you are so indebted to Him. It is His work which has helped the Kundalini to be awakened and could pass through this fontanel bone area. All this would have been impossible without the sacrifice of Christ. You all should thus deserve to have some sacrifices.

但重点是︰祂为你们而做的,为你们所有人,你们都亏欠祂。他的工作是帮助唤醒灵能,令灵能能穿过脑囟骨区。没有基督的牺牲,所有这些是不可能发生。因此你们所有人也应作点牺牲。

 

See, this is a very symbolic thing that has happened. And you all should be all the time prepared to sacrifice whatever is possible for the emancipation of humanity. It’s very, very subtle at this moment now. Forget about seeking, forget about everything, what is needed is that you have to remember all the time that you are saints, you are being blessed by the sacrifices of Christ. It’s very important.

看,已经发生的事是十分有象征性意义。你们也要时常作好准备,为着解放人类,在需要时要作出牺牲。现在这个时刻是十分、十分精微。忘记你的追寻,忘记一切,你只需要常常记着你们是圣人,因为基督的牺牲你受到祝福,这是很重要的。

 

May God bless you!

愿上帝保佑你!

 

H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

锡吕.玛塔吉.涅玛拉.德维

  

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